Films: Previously a Black Sheep, The Porsche 912 Has its Revenge

Previously a Black Sheep, The Porsche 912 Has its Revenge

December 9, 2014
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BrunoR
BrunoR

OMG!!! Now that’s a full-fledged hipster… Beard, cap, vintage car… You just cannot get any more hipster than that!! Seriously, if the car had kept its original engine, then I’d say it’s perfect. For now, it’s rather an outlaw, a 912 with a VW heart. As a long time 912 fan, this is an essential point to me, I don’t care if it runs fast, but I want it to behave like a 912, not a bug on steroids. But, really nice work, the body itself is definitely outlaw, but it goes well with the engine in fact. So, the… Read more »

Billard regis
Billard regis

Hi all,
There is a fantastic vidéo and 912 fan approach !
I am searching my first Porsche and I would really like to meet Julien to have advice and discuss the opportunity to restaure à 912. Could I have the chance to connect with him thanks to the site ?

Thanks In advance for your help.
Regis

Julien Borne
Julien Borne

Hi Regis,

We can meet whenever you want in Paris. Just send me a email : julien@912club.fr :’)

Vincent Clerc
Vincent Clerc

Nice!
Finally a french car enthusiast featured on petrolicious 🙂
Julien, could you tell me where it was filmed outside Paris? I’m desperate to find some nice, not crowded, roads around Paris, preferably on the eastern side, where I could “play” with my 87′ e28.

Matt Larson
Matt Larson

Hey Vincent, we shot those scenes at a place called the “17 turns” not far from Montainville.

Vincent Clerc
Vincent Clerc

Thanks, I’ll look into that.

Julien Borne
Julien Borne

Hi Vincent,

Yes most of the roads we shoot are in the lower part of the “Yvelines”.
But beware, in the 17 turns area there is a lot of police control as it is a very famous road for bike runs :’) do not unleash the e28 too quickly ^^

Rayton Fingal Fissore
Rayton Fingal Fissore

Julien, cool character! Love his loose style, keep it up! 🙂

Jason Fitzpatrick
Jason Fitzpatrick

Another great video of a fantastic classic!

French Frie
French Frie

…BTW, by the way you look, I cannot but see you as a french Marcus Walker 😉 ! that’s the worst I can hop for you… becoming the 912 guru !

Julien Borne
Julien Borne

As I was saying on a french porsche forum: I’ll have to grow dreadlocks & buy a 5000 ft2 loft in Paris 😉

and I hope to see you at our next 912club meeting Olivier.

French Frie
French Frie

Bravo Julien ! bien joué (well done) … I also own a ’69 912, bought in the US, which looks quite like a sister of yours ! I used to own a ’67 SWB 912 before this one, but the 69 is far sportier, with larger rims, bilstein, etc … I agree with you about the former black sheep reputation and must admit that I didn’t give a glance at 912s when I owned my Carrera 3.0, 15 years ago… but I was blind, and now I see 😉 … the 912 is a true classic, and is far more… Read more »

Calife
Calife

Fantastic video – I am glad to see that Petrolicious made it all the way to Paris !
Julien, congratulations for keeping the passion alive. I would love to come and visit your workshop and then maybe go for a drive in another descendant of the 356, my 2004 boxster S.
Cocorico.

Joe Metzger
Joe Metzger

Hi Julien,
I noticed a really cool shirt you had on that looks like the you on the front of it. Are those for sale? I’d love to purchase one to wear here in the USA.

Thanks in Advance,

Joe

Julien Borne
Julien Borne

Sorry Joe, it’s not me on the shirt :’). It was a limited edition quicksilver t-shirt I bought a few years back. I don’t think you can buy those anymore

Chris Pomares

Sorry the history can be found at Pompolo Design. Just click on the article.

Chris Pomares

Here is some history about Porsche’s experimentation with a four cylinder over head cam engine for the 912 and why they didn’t follow through at that time. I have one in my car and Kevin Lynch will soon.
It appears we will see a turbo 4 in the not to distant future.

haul
haul

1st Julian – parfait – keep on going 2nd – agree with kevin, that´s why we would all have the polo 4cyl engine . .thanks to dan it is available and a nice engine to swap with, if there woudl not be the high pricing tag on it. 3rd concerning the road taxes . . i can only speak for germany and at this time the law was actually according to the size of the engine. per 100 cm3 had to be paid per year 14,40 deutsch marks if you had a normal car. Kraftfahrzeugsteuergesetzt (KraftStg 1961) § 11 the… Read more »

Kuroneko
Kuroneko

Tremendous piece, on what looks like a glorious car. Love that flat four thrum! A friend purchased a three-gauge 912 that someone had slathered in Porsche decals, a red velour interior, and a VW engine. It was Polo Red too. With a 2.2L available for trade of parts, we took the most viable option and made a 912/6. Regrettable perhaps now, but easily rectified. At least she was saved from the red velour…

Steve
Steve

Early 911 engines are 1,991cc, so TJ Martin’s “opinion” that the 912 was constructed to avoid a tax on 2,000ccc and larger engined cars is ridiculous.

D Blane Newberry
D Blane Newberry

Excellent. Car, video, and spirit.

Kevin Lynch
Kevin Lynch

I was reading TJ Martin’s comments and it compelled me to comment, and respectfully disagree, at least in part. First, I think it’s important to recognize that many corporate decisions are made on multiple data points, not one single data point. With this in mind, I think TJ’s reference of taxation as a material issue for the 2L 911 is appropriate, and correct, but it’s not the entire story. It, along with the massive price difference from the 356 to the 911 did depress sales and put the company in a less than ideal financial condition. Those externalities certainly contribute… Read more »

Julien Borne
Julien Borne

Thanks for this detailed answer 🙂

Juppe
Juppe

Very nice vid! The shot starting from 5:55 at the Louvre roundabout reminds me of the movie “The Belgrade Phantom”, in which someone makes fun of the police by driving a 911 Targa round the Slavija square in Belgrade during Tito’s Dictature.

Ronnie M
Ronnie M

Nice ride, Julien. Your commentary makes me want to go out and buy one myself.

Fernando Bunster
Fernando Bunster

Stunning video! Reminds me of Claude Lelouch’s C’etait un Rendezvous. Keep up the great work.

Matt Larson
Matt Larson

Thanks Fernando! Rendezvous is a great film and was definitely an influence!

TJ Martin
TJ Martin

Alright …. lets get the historical record straight when it come to the 912 Porsche … Did Not … build the 912 out of any altruistic concern for their customers inability to afford the 911 Porsche built the 912 because the road taxes in Germany and most of Europe back then were suddenly raised significantly on cars 2 liters and over … with the result for Porsche being a drastic reduction in 911 sales both at home and thru out the continent So .. in order to save money on development and yet still maintaining sales Porsche … as an… Read more »

Julien Borne
Julien Borne

Hi TJ,

Sorry if I was wrong or incorrect about the 912 history. I had never heard of this version of the story before.
I’ll try to investigate this as I agree it’s alway better to know the genuine story rather than a romantic but incorrect version. :’)

Nate
Nate

Actually according to Harald Wagner (head of Porsche sales at the time) it was created because of the massive price jump (over 50\%) between the outgoing 356sc and the new 911. Which is clearly the reason the 912 outsold the 911.

Kuroneko
Kuroneko

You are not wrong. The view above is a complete fabrication to gain attention. The 356 line never had a ‘basement’ to start! As a 356 and 911 driver – both sold from the oldest franchise outside of Germany – the story you quote in this excellent work is true. Do not waste your time in doing any investigations… Neko.

Francesco
Francesco

Hello.Just saw the video and saw myself into your sensitivity towards the 912.I feel the 912 just it hits the cords of a petrolhead with minimum technical conscience rather than perceived truths via economic expense.My compliments for your presentation and for the commercial idea…and for your car.Where exactly are you located and what is the name of the shop?Having relatives between Versailles and Paris I’d surely come,if the opportunity comes,and distract you from your work.

Andreas Lavesson
Andreas Lavesson

In all honesty, I though of the 912 as a black sheep in my younger days. “What, a 911 with only 4 cylinders?!”. However, as I’ve grown slightly older and have come to realize that a car’s worth isn’t measured in horsepower or the amount of cylinders, the 912 seem like a very interesting car. The modifications done to this one are excellent and the video itself is, as always, excellent.

Felix
Felix

The same feeling here in this clip.

http://www.cinecars.nl/geel-giftig/

Keep the 912 spirit alive!!

motoring con brio
motoring con brio

Julien, your English is impeccable! Kudos.

wyatt seaverns
wyatt seaverns

Best piece in a long time! Lovely variety. Not just because I’m a black sheep owner either.

Sean Whelan
Sean Whelan

Noticed some stylistic differences in this piece. Was it shot or edited by someone else or are you just changing up a bit?
Brilliant video as usual, though, top work!

Ty
Ty

Great video! One of the best in a while.

HIP deluxe
HIP deluxe

912…The body of a 911 & the soul of a 356.

Kuroneko
Kuroneko

Dear HIP Deluxe. Please see photograph below of a three-gauge Polo Red 912. It is in the same jurisdiction as the photograph you posted, but perhaps 25 years ago. If not for the useless passenger side mirror, I would have thought they were perhaps different cars. But quite possibly we’ve posted photographs of the same car… Is yours three-gauge? If so, is your body number under just under 700? Excuse me please, but that would be one neat internet coincidence! Neko.

Douglas Dill
Douglas Dill

Was having difficulties trying to view earlier today, but now all is good.
My favorite 912 is 1969, only year of LWB (Long Wheel Base) early body with flairs like Julien’s modified ’67.
The handling is definitely more balanced in an early 912 compared to an early 911. What is missing though is the wonderful 911 6-cylinder torque.

Julien Borne
Julien Borne

There’s fans of the short wheel base as well as fans of the long wheel base… I guess balance & stability against maneuverability. 🙂

My next project is a 1969, so I guess I’ll see what better suits my driving ^^

But definitely, I love those 69′ flares !!

Yoav Gilad
Yoav Gilad

Sorry for the technical difficulties… should be good to go!

TJ Martin
TJ Martin

I keeps telling y’all . The 912 handles better than an equivalent 911 … stuff a hopped up Type 2 motor in its tail and it’ll outrun a 911 as well …. spend the big bucks and put one of those absolutely brilliant POLO Porsche flat fours in its rump [ as Alois Ruf has with his personal 912 ] and a lot of 911 Turbo’s will be struggling to keep up . So grab em before they’re too hot ! A tweak here … a mod or two there and you’ve got yourself a genuine 911 killer guaranteed to… Read more »

Nate
Nate

are you referring to a type 4 motor? because those were heavy and underpowered. And by the way, the early 912’s had more power than the 912e. The only thing the E model had that would be better is the galvanized body, and Im not even sure all of them were. The 1600 356 engine is a very stout engine, just extremely expensive to rebuild.

TJ Martin
TJ Martin

Nate – Nooooooo … a Type 2 my uninformed site mate is the Type 2 VW motor that many a 912 owner has had the sense to replace that fragile unloved pos remains of a 356 motor with . And on what planet was that asthmatic 912 version of the 356 engine ever more powerful than the 912E’s ? Not here in the US . Certainly not in Germany , Austria or CH either . No good sir … thou needest to get thy Porsche facts a wee bit straightened out and well removed from the world of Myth &… Read more »

Nate
Nate

Sorry TJ, but there is no such thing as a type 2 motor, there are type 1 and type 4. Upright cooling vs the heavier pancake motor. If by type 2 you mean a bus motor, they are referred to as type 1 engines and are the same basic layout as the 356 engine (a motor that is capably of moving the much heavier bus). Also the earlier, lighter 356 1600 motor made over 100hp compared to the heavily emission compliant type 4 motor in the 912e which made only 90. It doesn’t sound like you understand the construction of… Read more »

Julien Borne
Julien Borne

Sorry Nate, I should have been more specific ^^

It was off-course a answer to [b]TJ Martin[/b] about this sentence : [quote]And on what planet was that asthmatic 912 version of the 356 engine ever more powerful than the 912E’s ? Not here in the US . Certainly not in Germany , Austria or CH either.[/quote]

Julien Borne
Julien Borne

Well… you must be living on another planet then !! :’)

[u]Porsche official factory spec. [/u]
Type 616/36 engine (65-69) : 90hp
Type 4 VW engine (912E – 76) : 86hp

But what do you know… German engineers have a reputation of not being very specific with numbers 😉

Nate
Nate

Im not sure if that comment was directed towards me but I was referring to SAE numbers and I think you were referring to the DIN.

TJ Martin
TJ Martin

Yup ! ” This Video is Private ” for me as well

Scot
Scot

Being a long time 912 owner I was excited to see the video, but I’m having the same issue with private video… 🙁

Mike G
Mike G

as am i

Frank Marz
Frank Marz

having the same issue…can’t watch because video reads, “this video is private”

Jason Peck
Jason Peck

Has anyone else found that the video is set to private? I started it earlier but had to re-boot, now I can’t view it.

Rob
Rob

I just love the old skool rebuilds and shops and most of the the old skool craftsmanship!
Julien, I think you’ve done an amazing job on the rebuild of the 912, and I too am jealous of those beautiful country roads with the single lane twisties.
I think your doing Porsche a great service bringing these 912’s back to life.
I too have a ’87 911 that is waiting to be restored, and seeing you and your shop and you having fun in yours has sparked the motivation back into me
Thank you for that Julien.
And thank you Petrolicious for the amazing video

rinkster
rinkster

This is exactly what the spirit of these cars is about. Well done Jullen with your 912. I saw the thread on the Registryor or DDK I not sure which, so its really cool to see the car in flesh being driven and hearing more about your story. I can relate to what you say in the film as I have just bought a 1969 912 after my sister died a unexpectedly a few months ago. It just give you a diferent percepetive on life.I spend too much time worrying and not enough time doing. I’m really fortunate to be… Read more »

Julien Borne

I would be very pleased to welcome you in Paris (or anywhere else in France), race a few lights AND have some beer ^^
Let me know when you plan on coming over.

josh kobrin
josh kobrin

Very rad, Julien. Props on a solid build. Love all the mod touches to the interior. You’ve got dope style.

Kevin Lynch
Kevin Lynch

Fabulous video, great footage of those country roads, and love the story. I am a Porsche-file, and a 912 fan, with two in build mode at present, one fairly original, or “As It Was”, and one fairly renegade, or “As It Could Have Been”, this piece just hit the mark. Thanks for your passion.

Andrew Salt
Andrew Salt

A very enjoyable video. A cool dude with a cool beard and a cool car.
Unfortunately, I now want a 912. Thanks a bunch Petrolicious!

Matthew Lange
Matthew Lange

Agreed, and I’m also jealous of those traffic free French country roads again.

Julien Borne

Do not be too jealous Matthew… we had to wake-up pretty early to get those clear roads outside Paris. :’)
Most of the time, if you want to get clear country roads, you have to go much further away from the city.

Dan Sciannameo
Dan Sciannameo

Like Chavenay. Beautiful roads.

Julien Borne
Julien Borne

Some of the roads in this film actually ARE roads outside Chavenay :’)