Journal: Apartment Find: This Ferrari 250 GT PF Coupe Was Hidden In Hollywood For Decades

Apartment Find: This Ferrari 250 GT PF Coupe Was Hidden In Hollywood For Decades

By Andrew Golseth
January 30, 2017

If Indiana Jones was a car guy, this would be the plot line for his next film. Lawyer has a client who owns an apartment building in West Hollywood, apartment building owner mentions there’s a car in one of the units, that car turns out to be a stunning mid-restoration 250GT PF Coupe. Lawyer can’t believe it, immediately offers to buy the car with the anticipation of restoring it to show quality. The story is almost too good to be true, so we went straight to the new owner (who wishes to remain anonymous) and heard the whole tale.

Andrew Golseth: How does one just stumble upon a stowed away Ferrari?

Owner: I came across this car through a client of mine. I had heard rumors that there was a vehicle in an apartment building that he owned, but I never saw it. He was very closed lipped about it. He never wanted to say much until recently. Once he came to retirement age, he started selling things in preparation of moving out of state.

I kind of kept badgering him about it, and eventually, he let me see the car. I didn’t believe it when I saw it. It was literally inside a one-bedroom unit of an apartment building in Hollywood.

AG: Before you saw the car in person, did you know what model it was or did you just know it was an old Ferrari?

Owner: I didn’t know anything about it. All I knew was that he had an old car in this building, and I had heard through his family members that it might be something special. He was a guy that collected everything. He never got rid of anything. He kind of packed everything away and this was one of those things, I guess.

AG: Do you know the story of how it ended up inside an apartment?

Owner: He is the second owner. He assembled a five-inch binder full of documents; the car is very well documented. It looks like, according to this binder, the car started assemblage in October of ‘59 and finished December ‘59.

It was sold new in California to John von Neumann. Then the gentleman that I purchased it from was the second owner, who bought it on July 29 of 1975. I gathered that he enjoyed the car for probably eight years or so, into the early 80s. From the records, it seems like he started to restore the vehicle. At that point, he actually had the engine completely redone by Briggs Cunningham’s shop. I don’t know why exactly, but he told me that Hollywood was a rough area of town, so he wanted to store it away somewhere safe.

He decided the best place to put it was to cut open a wall in one of the apartment buildings he owned and park it inside, completely intact, and seal it back so nobody could tell anything was in there. That’s where it’s been since around 1985.

AG: So how did it come up in conversation?

Owner: To be honest, I think the first time I heard anything about it was when his wife mentioned it. She said there was a car in one of their apartment buildings, and it was just sitting. It’d been sitting and they hadn’t rented out the apartment for 30 years—something like that. Obviously, it kind of got me interested, but he was never willing to sell, and then I think he just came of age and decided that it’s no longer his project.

The first time I got to see it was when I went and visited the owner at his place. He lived in the same building the car was stored in. I had gone before, but he was never willing to show it to me. Finally, I think when they were ready to move, he said, “Okay, take a peek.” I take a look at it and then I was pretty tenacious about it.

Every so often I’d give him a call and say, you know, “When you’re ready to sell it, let me know.” I think at some point, he was even considering we could take it out and restore it together, something of that nature. But eventually, I think he just wanted to move on to other things.

The engine has been completely rebuilt from what the records show. I don’t think it’s ever even had gas in it since the rebuild, it’s just been sitting dry. The wheels have been refinished already, re-chromed and everything. A lot of the pieces of the vehicle are either brand new or refinished. I’d have to go through everything and see when his last purchase was—there are purchases of transmission mounts, for example, in 1990, documented.

AG: So, the car is yours now?

Owner: After the first time I actually laid eyes on it, it wasn’t too much longer after that I purchased the vehicle from him. I think I ended up buying it from him in April of 2016. It remained enclosed in the apartment until this past weekend. It was on the first floor in a one-bedroom apartment, against the dining room wall facing the driveway. What he had done, and it’s really interesting, it seems like he was inspired by a comic book strip because he’s included that in the binder of documents. It’s a comic of some guy who cut a hole in his wall.

Anyway, if you look through the documentation, every time he wanted parts in the ‘70s he would hand draw the part. For example, a light bulb or a brake caliper, or whatever it might be. The sketches are so intricate they look like a photograph. He’d make multiple copies of his sketches and mail them out, asking shops if they had these parts.

I still have the diagrams of how he cut out the wall. He hinged it so it wouldn’t destroy the wall, so it’s like a whole wall with a window and blinds and everything. It swings open, and he lined up ramps and rolled the car in. Later he took the engine and transmission out, and took the wheels off. He had it on jack stands, which were wired to the car because his theory was in the event of an earthquake it’d stay upright.

AG: How did the exhumation go?

Owner: It’s been a coordinated effort trying to get people to make this happen. We had a film crew there and also a contractor to cut the wall out. We basically sawed the wall at the seams because it had all been filled in. Thankfully, the hinges still worked as intended.

The car was on jack stands, so we put the wheels and steering wheel back on, and pushed the car back a little within the apartment to give it some more room. Then we cut the door outline out because it had been filled and painted over after the car originally went in.

Once we had the door cut open, we swung the wall out and the hinge system thankfully still functioned. We used the same ramps that were used to put the car inside. We lined up the ramps, and had about five people pushing the car out.

The tires were low on air, but we left the pressure low intentionally so the car wouldn’t easily roll away as the brakes are non-operational. The whole process took around five hours. I took it straight to a friend’s shop that specializes in Ferrari restorations. Now, we’re just waiting for the shop to put everything back together to confirm if it’s complete and if there are any parts missing.

AG: Was the car originally silver?

Owner: The color of the vehicle initially, from what he’s handwritten, was white with a red interior. If you look at a 1960 Road & Track, it’s a cover vehicle one of the months. I ordered the same Road & Track issue on eBay, and we’re trying to see if this might actually be the same cover car because that was a California car, as well.

We don’t think it is because from the photos, it seems like mine has an optional passenger side headrest, which the Road & Track car didn’t seem to have.

At some point, the interior was redone, which I think I’ll have to redo again if I want to have it show quality. The interior is black now but it was originally red, according to the notes.

AG: Numbers matching and original panels?

Owner: It seems like everything is numbers matching, from referencing the plates and the engine base. It seems like everything is matching, from what I can tell. Nothing else has been taken off the body, so it’s all intact. Really, body-wise, it’s all there.

AG: Do you have a restoration idea in mind? Are you planning on going with the original white and red color scheme?

Owner: You know, I probably won’t go with the white and red. To me, it seems too flat of a color for the car because it’s not a very curvaceous body. After speaking with several experts in the field, I’ve gathered that as long as you stick with a color scheme that’s original to the year, it won’t really devalue the vehicle.

I still want to do a little more research about that, but if that is the case, silver is a very safe color that looks nice on it, but I’ve seen a couple of other options I like also. I don’t think the flat colors, like red, look that great on this GT. There are, however, some burgundy type colors that look really nice. I’m really not sure yet.

AG: Once it’s restored, what’s your end goal for it?

Owner: We’ll have to see what the market says. Nowadays, it seems like after you restore something right, there isn’t much monetary gain. I think by that point, I’ll probably end up falling in love with it and keep it, which I have a feeling might happen anyway.

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joannawebster
3 years ago

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Sven Taow
5 years ago

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R Andre\' Stevens
R Andre\' Stevens
7 years ago

To deuceman32
No I’m not at HAMB , but you can find me on ‘facebook’ as Rob Andre Stevens in Corvallis, MT.. all my ‘toys’ are listed there.. Cheers

R Andre\' Stevens
R Andre\' Stevens
7 years ago

~WAS LIKE READING THE DISCOVERY OF KING TUT’S TOMB..
I have a similar story, only mine started in Long Beach, CA with a Long Beach Fireman. He purchased a 1940 Ford pickup in the mid-50’s from its original owner, with only 9,000 miles on it, as it had been stored all during WW2. He proceeded to semi-restore it, ‘cept using the then better Lincoln brake assembly, replaced the rear with a Halibrand quickchange, laid down new paint in ’59, ‘n hopped it up with a ’47 Flathead engine. In ’63 he blew a head gasket, ‘n parked it in a single stall of a 6-car apartment garage he owned, with plans to rebuild. Unfortunately that year, he perished fighting a fire with his Dept, ‘n his wife never opened the garage again. Fast forward to 1997, when the building was to be sold, ‘n I opened the garage finding the truck. Needless to say I bought it, but Life got in the way, then a divorce and a move to Montana has it still on the back burner. I’ll get her back on the road.. someday

deuceman32
deuceman32
7 years ago

R Andre, I appreciate your story more than the Ferrari find. As a fireman who has been through divorce and raising family with projects on long hold, I can relate bigtime. Tasteful traditional hot rods are at the very top of my gearhead heap. Would love to see more. Are you on the HAMB? I am the same user name there. That community would be blown away by your project.

Hollywood slum
Hollywood slum
7 years ago

Great story. Saw it on channel 7 yesterday. Typical “great Escape” pack rat story. Wall it in, but hinge the wall for eventual removal. Loved the Shelby Cobra Coupe story formally owned by Phil Spector in the LA Times a number of years back. Coupe was found in garage of former body guard under tarps after years of speculation. Daughter of body guard tragically commits suicide, investigation reveals Cobra at mothers house.

M S
M S
7 years ago

Wow, interesting read! Too bad the extraction was not documented and featured on P.

Art
Art
7 years ago

I think the Road & Track car was a 1st series inside plug car. Not this one. Blu Sera with Bianco interior would be beautiful.

Jim
Jim
7 years ago

I remember when he bought that car in 1975, I was was going to Hollywood High School. My father and the owner were friends. My father, fondly talked about how they installed the hinges on the wall, then cut the wall, and rolled it in there. I saw the car a couple of times, he had all the original and new parts, cataloged and stored in old bedroom dressers and cabinets. My father and mother both lived out their final years as tenants in that apartment building.

Eric Atoian
Eric Atoian
7 years ago

Great story and awesome find!

I actually know of the shop where this car is headed to. My uncle’s 1972 Fiat 124 sports couple has been under “restoration” for exactly two years and unfortunately still with not much hope for a swift completion. Hopefully the new owner of the Ferrari will have better luck!

Nicolas Moss
Nicolas Moss
7 years ago

Too bad the original owner wasn’t THE John von Neumann… then you’d have tech gazillionares banging on your door to buy it.

Ara Aghamalian
Ara Aghamalian
7 years ago
Reply to  Nicolas Moss

It is THAT Johnny Von Neumann as the first owner. He was the west coast Ferrari distributor in the late 50’s and early 60’s.

Technically it was registered to his wife Eleanor. This car has major province and history behind it.

Nicolas Moss
Nicolas Moss
7 years ago
Reply to  Nicolas Moss

Hmm… I was thinking of the John von Neumann who was an inventor, computer scientist, mathematician, and overall wild genius. For us computer geeks, he’s responsible for the keystone concept dubbed “a von Neumann machine”. He died in Washington DC in 1957.

Not to take anything away from the JvN that you are thinking of, but in my circles, a car salesman — no matter how great — just doesn’t come close.

Jack
Jack
7 years ago
Reply to  Nicolas Moss

John von Neumann was the Vw distributor in the US and ultimately sold back to ferrari.
Friend of ferrari. Had a lot of Ferraris including a factory Daytona convertible which was White. He loved white cars.

CWNelson
CWNelson
7 years ago

Film crew on site. Video available?

Adams Hudson
Adams Hudson
7 years ago

The ‘leather’ of the interior redo is exactly the same vinyl used in Panteras in thier days (71-74). Far as the car possibly being the R&T car save for the headrests, many photographers pull headrests since they can obstruct views, so there’s still a chance it’s that car. What a fantastic story!

Dennis White
Dennis White
7 years ago

Great story, but these Ferrari barn finds happen all the time.

Wait a minute… this was an apartment find. Nevermind.

Oh, and dark blue and tan for a 250 Coupe!

Nic Wolff
Nic Wolff
7 years ago

The nephew of the man who put the car in the apartment is taking questions over at Hacker News https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13547624

Sotirios Bakaimis
Sotirios Bakaimis
7 years ago

Hollywood is a place full of surprises!!!

Steve Seiwald
Steve Seiwald
7 years ago

Thanks for the great details and photos. I’m happy to read that the owner understands the importance of choosing the best color for a particular body shape.

Paul Ipolito
Paul Ipolito
7 years ago

Only in L.A.

slumdog1200
slumdog1200
7 years ago

Why not just assemble the car with the parts as it is and drive the thing? The world really doesn’t need another red ‘show quality’ Ferrari It would be a shame if it was really just about making the most money from the car.
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FH944
FH944
7 years ago
Reply to  slumdog1200

Couldn’t agree more

Jimmy G
Jimmy G
7 years ago
Reply to  slumdog1200

I’d take it to bare metal and repaint it white and red interior but use everything that’s there just nice paint and original car with nothing new except paint and interior making it a great driver. I would consider silver but white is original and would definitely bring back the red interior.

Scott Allen
Scott Allen
7 years ago

I love what people do with their Italian cars.
I have a friend who locked his family Ferrari in a container.
The rumors say it was buried, and very valuable, some said it was long gone. But, one, maybe two, knew where it was. After incasement of near 40 years, reluctantly I think, he sold the car, for undisclosed millions to one of the Bruce’s. The car was restored to a former race color.

Dennis White
Dennis White
7 years ago
Reply to  Scott Allen

Supposedly, some woman is buried in her Ferrari in Texas!

Jim Levitt
Jim Levitt
7 years ago

Meh. Let it stay there. Those were SO ugly and SO boring to drive it deserves to be frozen in time where it sits now
(I mean this)

Amir Kakhsaz
Amir Kakhsaz
7 years ago

Wow, absurd and really cool. This and the green Dino that was buried like a dead body are great stories.

The car will most definitely be devalued in non-original colors, but I agree with the owner that white over red on this particular body is not flattering. Especially when compared to a nice metallic silver, grey or maroon with a saddle brown interior. Something along those lines would be beautiful.

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