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Made To Drive | S07 E16

This Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16 Has A Subtle Flair

It’s an under-the-radar performance car, and that suits its owner just fine
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Felix Trzetrzelewska
Felix Trzetrzelewska
5 years ago

Great little collection you have. I would take them all. Enjoy them in good health.

(And as ever, nicely filmed with the Quantas Airbus in the background and that beautiful surf. No one has mentioned Martin Brundle who once said….

jamjax
jamjax
6 years ago

I bought a new 1986 190 2.3 for the simple reason that it was the fastest sedan sold in the US at that time, top speed 141 mph.

Out ran many a muscle car with it on the freeways, it was easy to out corner them anywhere.

Used to get from Albuquerque to Telluride in it in less than four hours, 320 miles, 300 miles of that on secondary roads. You do the math.

After a while I was on a first name basis with a Highway Patrol officer who seemed to range all over the state just to nail my ass, despite my state of the art Valentine Radar detector.

Great driving car but troublesome with 29.5 days in the shop in the first year, the ABS system was the other reason I bought it and there was some gremlin that caused it to not work in the rain…..no kidding. They replaced the computer twice, sensors, pads, rotors everything and it never got sorted out.

Mercedes tried to convince me that it was normal to go through pads and rotors in 15, 000 miles, I said I had never been through pads on anything in less than 75, 000 miles let alone rotors. This happened twice in the time I had it.

As a footnote this is about the time Mercedes started ten year loans to pay off their cars….and you needed it. This also exposed the myth of Mercedes good used car prices since most people that could afford the high cost of a used one could afford a new one making it difficult to sell.

Sold it to a doctor in Roswell and traded the sheepskin seat covers on it for the diesel Audi 100 he was driving so I could get back home……that was a bit of a shock to drive after the 190, you had to speed downshift to not lose the revs to get up any slight hill.

Loved the 190-16 but was not sad to see it go after all of it’s problems.

Alexandre Goncalves
Alexandre Goncalves
6 years ago

The Americans and its laws juts killed that front….

Nice car though!

James Wieler
James Wieler
6 years ago

Always loved the 2.3-16, some day I’ll have one too.

Does anybody know where he’s driving? Beautiful road.

Sotirios Bakaimis
Sotirios Bakaimis
6 years ago
Reply to  James Wieler

California near LA somewhere?

Portage1
Portage1
6 years ago

Chase Grill, I too saw the same Poster in the Cadillac and can find no information, but am quit curious what this car is about. Taking nothing away from the Cosworth as it stands on it’s own merit….Petrolicious can you assist?

Mosca Valerio
Mosca Valerio
6 years ago

More engine noise please!

Chase Gill
Chase Gill
6 years ago

At 3:13 there is a poster of a crazy widebody ’80s Cadillac Seville of some sort. It reads “Paisley Productions”. I am intrigued, and Google can’t seem to help me figure out what on earth this thing is. Anybody? It’s strange and shouldn’t exist. Dare I say I think I might really like it? (Oh yeah, also, I love the 190E Cosworth).

Chase Gill
Chase Gill
6 years ago
Reply to  Chase Gill

*late ’70s

Ronnie M
Ronnie M
6 years ago

Passed one of these on the road this morning. Great looking sleeper.

Sotirios Bakaimis
Sotirios Bakaimis
6 years ago

Although an Alfa Romeo worshiper the 190 and the E series of the ’80s were something unique and truly Mercedes. Good video.

Robert in LA
Robert in LA
6 years ago

Del! You need to change your brake fluid. It is sepia brown. Other than that: lovely car.

Jason McGowin
Jason McGowin
6 years ago

My parents got one in 1987. A week later my mom let me drive it one day. I was 17 at the time. An older driver made a left turn in front of us while I was going about 40. The car was totaled and the airbags saved both me and my mother from serious injury. My arm still went into the windshield. Sad that one of these only last a week thought a Mercedes mechanic bought it and was going to build it back up.

Robert in LA
Robert in LA
6 years ago

Apparently Ayrton Senna drove one of 20 identical MBZ 190 2.3-16s at the Nurburing, against a field of F1 drivers and won.

“These cars, introduced in September 1983, were showcased at the “Nurburgring Grand Prix circuit May 12, 1984, the inaugural race was a celebrity affair arranged by Mercedes, who had launched their 190 2.3-16 saloon just months before. It was meant as a light- hearted jape to generate publicity for the new car and track, but not everyone saw it that way… Mercedes provided 20 identical near road-spec 190s for the race, and gathered together a strong field of Formula One drivers past, present and future to provide the thrills…. for the young Senna, a virtual unknown who had made his F1 debut just two months before, this was an opportunity to prove himself by beating F1’s established stars….After the race, an elated Senna said of his victory: ‘Now I know I can do it.’”

Guitar Slinger
Guitar Slinger
6 years ago
Reply to  Robert in LA

Yes Senna did . And when he did it was major news from Autosport to R&T signaling to those in the know that a new top gun was in town , FYI ; Minichamps occasionally offers a scale model of the Senna 2.3 16V both in 1/43 as well as 1/18 scale

Felix Trzetrzelewska
Felix Trzetrzelewska
5 years ago
Reply to  Robert in LA

You are missing the best part of that. The guy he had to go pick up at the airport prior to the race?

Alain Prost.

UNO///M
UNO///M
6 years ago

Love the car, but he needs to install some konis, the wheel gap is enormous, that would make the looks great.

Robert Hiermeier
Robert Hiermeier
6 years ago
Reply to  UNO///M

I was thinking of the exact same thing, the car is too high and while he is at it, change the exhaust system to something a little more louder.

Guitar Slinger
Guitar Slinger
6 years ago
Reply to  UNO///M

Repeat after me gentlemen … Function over Form …. Function over Form … Function over Form … every time !

Bret Dodson
Bret Dodson
6 years ago

I’ve always liked these and wanted one. I like to think of the 2.3-16 as the understated DTM homologation car for the guy who doesn’t want the attention an E30 M3 brings.

Guitar Slinger
Guitar Slinger
6 years ago
Reply to  Bret Dodson

Having driven both the E30 M3 and 2.3 16V’s extensively I’ll add in that the 2.3 16V is seriously under rated in comparison to the M3 as well as in the overall pantheon of M-B classics not to mention a much better daily driver / road car than the M3 . Suffice it to say the E30 M3 has an agricultural feel to it on public roads [ e.g. they drive like a tractor ] whereas the 2.3 16V has a sense of refinement and gentlemanly comfort about it all while sacrificing very little in the way of performance to the E30 M3 . As for this young man’s 2.3 16V ? Despite some criticisms from the peanut gallery above .. in my opinion he did the car up just right . Addressing the few issues that exist while not compromising the function for just a tad bit more … form !

Morgan Combes
Morgan Combes
6 years ago

and see what the car can do in the hands of Paul Geddings! https://www.youtube.com/user/4doorracer