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What an egomaniac. No more videos of him again.
Men who have achieved what David Lee has achieved in business are often not what you would call humble. Regarding his cars Lee is certainly what you might call ‘neighborly’. He loves collecting, restoring, historical reconstruction, and resto-moding of rare cars, and he likes sharing the work product of that effort with his public. And it is the cars we are all here to view and discuss, is it not?
Could not agree more – towards the end of the video I wanted out. I could listen anymore.
Great Car – great Road …. can anybody let me know where this beautiful road is ?
( I guess somewhere close to PCH in the Malibu area ? )
Some of it might be Piuma Road. Perhaps Saddle Peak. Maybe Schueren Road. Kanan-Dume comes to mind. Conceivably Dickerson Canyon. Mulholland in the western most section where it terminates at PCH. Any of these are worth your time if you are up that way and have a nimble car.
This is my prefered vintage car and my dream if I could have one…
I just think it’s a shame to transform this beautiful car, but I don’t judge the huge job that has been done…
I’m happy that it was only a gts that had been used and not a gt 😉
Very cool and beautiful car that I’ve seen several times in person—but definitely not the first of its kind, nor the most ambitious. About a decade ago a shop here in LA, Blackhorse Motors, took a pristine, one-owner, Euro spec 1984 308QV GTSi, and the entire rear subframe as it unbolts for service from an F355 (engine, transmission, suspension, etc.), and lined it up with the 308 frame rails so that the 308 now has a removable rear F355 subframe…and a 410 hp, 8500 RPM, 5 valve per cylinder (this Dino has four valves), 355 drivetrain, six speed transverse transaxle… Read more »
Thanks for the video, and above all, thanks to all the people here that gave credit to the people that built the Dino- if it wasn’t for them, I would have thought that Mr. Lee had built the car…
To me it’s like ripping a song and not telling anyone, hoping no one notices it…
Allegedly David Lee invested over $1M in this car, and had Moto Technique lavish around 4,000 hours of time on development. After that kind of engagement with them it is somewhat bizarre that Lee doesn’t mention the engineers and artisans who did the work. Having had the job of writing the invoices at a higher-end restoration garage myself, I remember customers who were apoplectic when they found out what their hopes and dreams had cost them. These tasks often double and triple in scope as the work proceeds. The course of the work is often joyous. The end game is… Read more »
I think Lee takes credit because he supposedly conjured the car and commissioned Moto Technique to build his vision. I saw this car in person at the San Marino Motor Classic car show in June 2018. My understanding is that Lee wants to build about 25 of these Frankenrarris, and I would bet that the pricing will be over $1M a pop. And @Robert, I doubt there will be any “economy of scale” built into the pricing, as Lee is a businessman, first and foremost, and thinks he sees an opening to be the “Singer” of Dinos.
Thank you Robert and Daniel for your insights 🙂
Understood Daniel, that David Lee came along and was ready to place money on a set of observations that are long standing and that no body else is moving on. The first of these is that there is some pent up demand for elite Ferrari’s in special editions, because you have to be well known to Ferrari before they will sell you one. The second observation is that the Dino is considered by people like John Pogson of Italia Motorsport to be under powered. And the third is the the electrics are considered to be truly substandard for the car… Read more »
On the Californian coast I imagine
The tunnel looks like Kanan Dume Road.
No doubt a class of its own. And yes neither accessible to me. But David has a also a nice original Dino and now he can compare what could have been possible to do with this marvellous V8 donator engine. Performance and sound! Wow, well done David!
Love this car, and as a Dino owner (featured in Petrolicious Oct ’17) I don’t have a problem with this at all. Great job David, just wish I could afford to do the same to mine!
I appreciate David sharing this car with a wider audience but seeing it is not the same as driving. I wonder if the vintage car culture is turning in to a scene where the rich show off their awesome classics/Resto-mods, the rest of us ogle, gasp, clap and go home in our mini vans because anything worth driving has been hoarded into the warehouses of the wealthy. Look at what’s happening to air cooled 911s. There’s a zillion of them out there but their price just keeps climbing right out of the reach of us regular working schlepps. They’re being… Read more »
You might spend some time on Bring a Trailer, and see if there is anything you that you like. The prices on air-cooled Porsches are completely over the top. This said, there are a lot of affordable cars that can be modded, are solid performers and very good fun. When Gordon Murray, the F1 designer and engineer, had a car built for his own use, you know what he chose? A Ford Escort Mk 1. Look around. There is good value to be had. Leave the Porsches to others. The build videos on Gordon Murray’s car start here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSiG7oNXC6w
@Robert in LA You’re absolutely right and I already do spend far too much time on BaT! It did help me decide on my most recent car, a ’98 BMW 318ti. So you’re correct, there are (for the time being) a few affordable entertaining cars left. Dino’s and 911s were the “achievable” exotics of my youth. The Dinos quickly appreciated out of my dreams but the 911 remained a remote possibility until the last few years. It’s frustrating because I so desire that unique driving experience of the light weight, air-cooled, rear-engined Porsche. There’s nothing else like it except a… Read more »
I think that you did well with the 318Ti. If you want sharper handling out of it on a budget, and have not already done so, start with 200 UTQG tires one size wider, a set of hotter compound brake pads, adjustable camber plates in front, and heim jointed, fully rigid sway bar links, and a crisper alignment with less toe in in front, and a little more camber. This will sharpen the handling considerably. The rigid end links will bring your existing sway bars into play immediately without wind up. Stage two would be a set of coil overs… Read more »
Really nice (apart from the flairs on the guards imo).
A transverse V8 in a Dino. Please be careful David the power to weight must be outrageous; besides , I want you to stay around and submit more videos. take care David.
Beautiful. What are the power figures of the new motor? Very interesting to install a non-turbo F40 motor…
According to the Octane magazine article ( along with several others ) approximately 400 hp .
Room for the turbo plumbing may have been an issue. That said, the car already has a huge amount of power. At some point with a car this light, and 2 wheel drive, there is no tire wide enough to take the torque to the ground.
That sound is phenomenal and tells the story well enough for me.
I guess you’d call this a resto, but I’ve seen the car a couple of times and it’s just so beautifully done and for me, stays within period. But David, your most special? Those TdF’s (new and old) ain’t chopped liver!
It’s great to see enthusiast tweaking the older cars with modern tech. I agree with Lee that it is good to have some examples of a car that is more reliable then original.
Apparently David Lee wants to partner with Moto Technique to produce a limited production run of the car of five cars per year, for a multi-year run. Serial replication would bring the price down meaningfully, and would introduce certainty into a process that can be painfully open ended. There enough of the Dinos around that finding donor cars should be manageable.
This is the second video (after the Jay Leno one) on the car where David Lee has not given any credit to the people that actually built it. The work was done my Mototechnique in the UK with the interior by O’Rourke coachtrimmers. The car is an evolution of Mototechnique proprietor Kevin O’Rourke’s own outlaw V8 Dino a car previously featued on Petrolicious. https://petrolicious.com/articles/best-of-both-worlds-a-ferrari-v8-powered-dino
I understand that Lee tried to buy Kevin’s car but was refused which led to the request to build this one.
Thanks for rounding out these elements of the build process. For me personally, knowing who did the work along with how and where it happened, is at least as interesting as the final result. This kind of craft and industrial artisanship is usually decades in the making, and is often multi-generational. I did not know about Moto Technique, outside of London. Apparently when an Italian super-car crashes at speed these are the people who can make it whole again, if the car can be saved at all. This is a formidably skilled shop.
Thankfully the Octane article on Mr Lee’s outlaw 246 gives full credit along with their side of the backstory behind the build .
But yeah . A 1000 shames on everyone else for not giving credit where credit is most definitely due
PS; According to the Octane article you understand correctly grasshopper . Or should that be Number Six ( 1960’s Brit tv reference both implied and fully intended )
Love Petrolicious but this time Driven did it better https://youtu.be/-ppdTBN7MYw
How would we react to a Singer owner who did not refer to Singer or Rob Dickinson in a video about his car? I realise David Lee may have a business deal to distribute The Evo, but seriously… If you love cars, maybe you also care about the designers, the engineers, the men and women behind the car. Or at least care enough that you don’t appear to take credit where it’s not due.
@ Kevin Wong, fun little titbit I heard from speaking to Kevin O’Rourke recently. Way before Rob Dickinson had created (or even thought of) Singer, Mototechnique restored a 356 for him. Not exactly life going in circles but there is a very tenuous connection there.
@MatthewLange Everything is important 🙂
It’s also really disappointing that this story keeps spreading about this car having an F40 engine… over on FerrariChat forum, it’s been confirmed from the block number that the V8 is actually a modified 328 block. There’s absolutely nothing F40 about it! It’s a fantastic build, and the 328 source (transverse) actually makes a lot more sense than a de-turbo’d F40 (longitudinal) block… I suppose F40 sounds better, but it would be nice if it was true before Mr Lee broadcasts that misinformation in every interview.
When I first heard about this Dino, I was a tad hesitant until I saw it featured on Jay Lenos Garage(video attachment below). After a few minutes of viewing, I was totally smitten. What an amazing car ! Maybe what a Dino should have become. A tip of the hat to David Lee. Also kudos to the Petro production crew for an outstanding vid.
Check out the Octane magazine issue that featured the car on the cover as well . A very extensive ( for a magazine ) look into all that went into this magnificent 246 resto – mod / outlaw